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- (fbe) it has been a difficult time here in the last weekin the united states with what happenedin charlottesville. - yes. it's deplorable. - the past few days have definitely been a roller coasterof emotions for me. i've cried a lot. i've, you know,found myself being angry. - the first time i saw about itwas on twitter, and i saw pictures of people posting and stuff,and i was like, this cannot be real.
- (fbe) in the aftermath,there's been a video that's been shared a lot,and it's actually from the 1940s and was made bythe u.s. war department at the time. so with that contextjuxtaposed to what's happening here, 70 some years later,we want you to watch it and then we'll talk about it.- okay. - i've seen it pop up.i haven't clicked on it yet. i can tell you alreadyjust about the title and just about everything,it's like, it...
we kind of forget world war iiwasn't that long ago. - (man 1) i happento know the facts. now friends, i'm justan average american, but i'm an american american.- that tone of voice is already painful. - (man 1) some of the things i seein this country of ours make my blood boil. i see peoplewith foreign [inaudible]. i see negroes holding jobsthat belong to me and you.
- what? - (man 1) i see negroes holding jobsthat belong to me and you. - it's deja vu. - (man 1) now i ask you,if we allow this thing to go on, what's gonna becomeof us real americans? - real americans. - (man 2) i've heard this kindof talk before, but i never expectedto hear it in america. - that makes two of us.- very relatable to this day.
- (man 3) this fella seemsto know what he's talking about. - (man 1) and i tell you friends, we'll never be ableto call this country our own until it's a country without.- 70 years. damn. still in the same [bleep] spot.- (man 1) without what? - (man 4) yeah, without what?- (man 1) without negroes, without alien foreigners...- sounds like hitler. - (man 1) without catholics.- wow. - so the peoplethat make the country?
- (man 1) without freemasons. - people still thinkthis way, though. - (man 3) what's wrongwith the masons? i'm a mason. hey, that fella's talking about me. - oh, so that guy was okaywith it until... yeah. - (man 2) and that makesa difference, doesn't it? - yeah, he doesn't careuntil he talks about him. - (man 1) these are the people whoare trying to take over our country. - it doesn't even feel likei'm watching a video
from decades ago. - (man 1) you knowwhat they stand for, and it's up to you and meto fight them. - this kind of soundslike a donald trump speech. - (man 1) fight themand destroy them before they destroy us. thank you.- (men clap) - only two people clapping. - (man 2) before he said masons,you were ready to agree with him. - this is so powerful.
- (man 3) well yes,but he was talking about... what about those other people?- other people, yeah. - (man 2) but in this country,we have no other people. we are american people. - that's what i'vebeen trying to say. - (man 3) what about you?you aren't american, are you? - (man 2) i was born in hungary,but now i am an american citizen and i have seen whatthis kind of talk can do. i saw it in berlin.- oh.
- (man 2) but i was a fool then. i thought naziswere crazy people, stupid fanatics. but unfortunately, it was not so.- this is sad. - (man 2) they knew that theywere not strong enough to conquer a unified country, so they split germanyinto small groups. - that's kind ofwhat's happening now. - (man 2) they used prejudiceas a practical weapon to cripple the nation.- you can still use that now.
- (man 2) we human beingsare not born with prejudices, always they are made for us.- that's what i've always saying. - (man 2) made by someonewho wants something. - it's true.- (man 2) remember this when you hear this kind of talk. somebody's going to getsomething out of it. - yeah.- (man 2) and it isn't going to be you. - (sighs) that sucks thatthey put this out,
and we're in 2017 now,and we're still in this situation. - it's so good.i've never seen that before, but he has some great points. and it's sad thatthey're so relevant today. it points out the fact that normally people don't careunless it affects them. - just because youweren't born an american or you're not americanon a piece of paper doesn't mean that your spiritisn't that of america.
and just because you were born here and you have paperssaying you're american doesn't make you an americanif you're a shitty person. it's fascinating. you look at this,and you think this is forever ago. this is ancient. but inthe grand scheme of things, this is was like (snaps) that. - coming from a latin family,it's weird because i'm just out here trying to be a good person,and helping other people, and just because you have an ideaof someone or a stereotype,
that doesn't meanthat everyone is like that. - clearly, peoplestill haven't learned. there are days when it's likei have racial experiences, and i sit there and try toact tough about it in the situation, but i go home and cry. and it's tough to think about that,but it's real. - this whole thinghit so close to home, because my momis also an immigrant, and then there's my dad, who,even though he's white, he's jewish.
my dad's mothersurvived the holocaust, and so to see thishappening all over again, it's so surreal,but unfortunately, it is real. - i'm actually syrian. i was not-- my parents--it's not just my parents are syrian. i was actually bornand raised there until i was 14. and i had to come here,so technically those people would hate my guts,which makes me really sad. i spent three yearsin an active war zone,
and i can tell youthat every single person that left didn't leave because they want to,because i didn't want to. it's my home. it's everythingthat i've ever known and i had to leave it,because i was in danger. and people don't understand that,because they've never felt it. but if it was up to me,i definitely would be back there. - (fbe) why do you thinkthat this old, short film made by the u.s. war departmenthas been making the rounds after the white nationalist rallythat led to violence this week?
- because it showsso many good points, you know? and it's sad thatit's still so relevant, but it's like people just think thatif people are different from them then they must not belong here,you know, when it's like america was made out of peoplefrom all over the world. - it's so accurate. it's so true. the term others is not realisticin a country like-- in america, 'cause everyone is an other. - because i have grown upin california and in los angeles
and in kind ofan accepting neighborhood, i've always been in the naive aspectthat, you know, racism is over. you travel and youtalk to other people, and you see how in areasit's so predominant and it's so real for them. and it really makes you realizethat wasn't that long ago, and we've still gotsuch a long way to go. - i heard zero differencesbetween that and, you know, what i've been seeingon the news as of late
coming from theunite the right rally. it's so timely and relevantto what's going on right now, so i definitely think that that's whyit's been making its rounds. - when you are againsta big group of people, when you have support on your side,and you're not being singled out, you don't-- it's difficultto talk about, really, 'cause it just feelslike common sense. when-- where did we get to a pointwhere i have to say being a nazi
or being racist is wrong? - (fbe) so let's talkabout charlottesville, where a white nationalist,neo-nazi rally took place, and when many other arrivedto stand up to them, someone ran their car into them, injuring many and murderingone of the counter-protesters. the suspect arrestedwas around your age, 20 years old. - really?i didn't know that. - no way. 20 years old.
- he was for the neo-nazis, and he was goingthrough the anti-protest group. that's extreme terrorism,you know what i'm saying? don't call it what it's not.that's terrorism. - (fbe) so when you found outabout this as it was happening, how did it make youfeel about the country? - i didn't believe it at first.i was like, neo-nazi? like what? it's terrible. it's insane. - it's very sad to thinkthat it was never gone.
you know, racism was never gone.it was just hidden. - i was just really,really, really disgusted. when i saw the pictures,it looked like out of a film. seeing the anger and disgust on the people's faceswith the torches yelling... - it was an awful feeling to realize that we haven'tprogressed as far as we have, and there are so many peoplethat have remained hidden that could be my neighboror the guy i just bought food from
at the store, who secretlyhas these feelings. - it made me losea little bit of faith, seeing that it seems likethere are a lot of people in this country who don't love meand don't think i or my mom or my dad are worthy of living here or even possibly being aliveis really scary. - these people werecalling themselves patriots, and it was shameful and an insultto people who are actual patriots who are fi-- the hundredsof thousands of people who--
american soldiers, who have foughtand died trying to defeat that. to have someone justcarry the nazi flag and call themselves a patriot,that-- i can't imagine... i'm just ashamed to everybodywho fought against that. - i have little brothers and sisters and i would hope that by the timei had reached my 20s that we would've seen more stepsto ending racism. i don't want them to be my ageand get put in situations like that where they have to fearfor their own lives.
like... (sighs)hold on, i'm sorry. - (fbe) part of the continued uproar has been around president trumpwho made a statement saying that there aremany sides to the violence. and later, despitedenouncing neo-nazis and white nationalists,came back out again to say essentiallyboth sides are to blame. do you feel that there is blameto be had on both sides? - so the thing isin most of these hot topic issues
like gun control or politicsor something like that, i have an opinion on one side, but i can see where both sidesare coming from. but in cases like this,where there's one side, and then the other side is nazis, you know, it's a little harderto remain open-minded. - i know freedom of speechand all that, right? when you're goingagainst human rights, that's when it turns--like, it's not okay.
- they're calling themselveslike a nazi group. we can 100% move past this,where people are having protests and need to argue about itand get in fights about it on the streetsand kill one another over it. i definitely thinkthat we can move past that. and i think weshould've moved past that, and it's sad that we're stilldealing with these issues. - i understand why, you know, violence and angeris coming from the left side,
especially minorities and peoplewho are directly targeted by this unite the right rally. and it seems like ithasn't been getting any better. so at this point,we're just angry and we're tired. i don't think that violenceis the answer. - i understand the southand their patriotism and how they feel a connectionwith that history, but that was history. can you imagine walking aroundand seeing a monument of someone
that wanted to keep you enslaved? remembering historyand respecting it is important, but having it out for displayshows that we're okay with that. i think that thatbelongs in a museum. - i don't think that you can blamerelatively peaceful protesters who are protesting somethingthat is a direct call to violence against millions of americans. you cannot blame themfor getting themselves killed by a white supremacist. no!
in this situation,there are not many sides. - i think that whole alt left,alt right speech was... (sighs) that's the best way i can put this. i voted who i voted for, sure.do i regret it? no. but, like, if he wasin this room right now, i'd be like, dude,you gotta shut the [bleep] up for like five secondsand approach your country, especially whenthousands among thousands, tens of hundreds and thousandsof people are being affected
by this right nowas we speak since saturday. we are literallydestroying ourselves over this shit.i was hoping to see, especially in situations like this,like someone coming in and putting their foot down,and being like, no, it's-- we're gonna be--change this up for the people, for america,(softly) and he hasn't done that. - (fbe) for many, the feelingis that this is gonna get worsebefore it gets better.
though there's no simple solution,what are some thoughts you have about how we canbring people together, or do you feel like as a young adultliving in america in 2017 that it's just not possible? - it's pretty difficult. there's so many people out there that still believe in thatand it makes me want-- it makes me wonderwhat's gonna happen. like, is it gonna end or not?
- we can make progress,but not with this guy. - i'm very optimistic. we canget through anything, you know? and that's what i heavily believe.but it starts with us. - people who do have privilege,white people in particular, to recognize that privilegeand to use it to try and help, you know, bring safetyand security to those people who are being attackedand who are being threatened. - it's definitely possible atthe moment to bring people together. most people have came out,
most people beingalmost everybody but the president, have come out and condemned this.but it should be common sense. you know, we shouldn't have to saythat racism is bad. - if we take the right steps,it can get better. we're gonna hit so many potholes before we actuallyhit that smooth road, but we can hit that smooth road. it's just a matter ofare you actually gonna drive down it or are you just gonnasit there and look at it?
- it's definitelynot comfortable to sit down, especially when you're talkingto people who have other beliefs. we have to do thatin order to make progress. discussion is definitely, to me, the most important stepin making change. - just because somebody appearsto be the villain, and just because someoneappears to be the good guy doesn't mean they both don't havegood and bad inside of them, and we don't needto throw one away.
we need to talk to both of them, and we need tobring everybody together and come together as a world.
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